TOTAL FLOOD

[ZED]

0+0+0+0=0000

[SaZ]

nuly pakelus kvadratu gaunam 1.
ar cia as kazka is po matematikos baisiausiu audru miglos netaip supezejau? greiciausiai taip ir yra...

[Wxtautas]

nuly pakelus kvadratu gaunam 1.
ar cia as kazka is po matematikos baisiausiu audru miglos netaip supezejau? greiciausiai taip ir yra...

0 kwadratu lygu 0, nes 0*0 lygu 0.

[pk10]

nuly pakelus kvadratu gaunam 1.
ar cia as kazka is po matematikos baisiausiu audru miglos netaip supezejau? :D greiciausiai taip ir yra... :P

mm, kodel manau kad logoritmai ce nepriciom, nes kiek juos suprantu tai jie reikalo esmes nekeicia, kad ir:
0+0+0+0=x
lg1+lg1+lg1+lg1=x
lg(1*1*1*1)=x
lg1=x
0=x
esmej gaunam ta paty sh

[Lioniax]

kad 0+0+0+0 = 0
taip
bet 0+0+0+0+... (iki begalybes) != 0
kam tada lygi begaline 0 suma?

[pk10]

perpildytam hardui?

[ZED]

[Laurynas]

The Egyptians used different hieroglyphs about 3500 B.C. to represent numbers using a decimal system. There were glyphs to represent 1, 10, 10^2, 10^3, 10^4, 10^5, and 10^­6. These glyphs were written in descending order additively to show different numbers. If a category of numbers was missing, as in the number 207, this was easily visible by the glyphs that were used for the 2 and 7. The 2 would be shown with the symbol for 10^2, and the 7 with glyphs for 1. This was a very hard way to write numbers, as they would become very long, and the amount of numbers that could be written were limited to nine million. Though, at the time, Egyptians had no use for numbers as large as that.

The Egyptians did use a form of zero for the reference point during construction guidelines and as the answer to a number subtracted from itself.

The Sumerians, from around 3200 B.C., used a decimal system for everyday counting and a sexagesimal system, base 60, for astronomical calculations. Both did not include a number for zero. There were symbols for numbers 1 - 9, and 10 - 90 by tens, 60^2, 10x60^2, and 60^3. A group of symbols would signify multiplication. A subtraction symbol was sometimes used to make it simpler to show long numbers. This system used many different symbols for numbers, and had a limit of numbers that could be named.

When the Babylonians came to power around 2000 B.C., their sexagesimal system became the most commonly used. This was the first counting system to use place value. Because there was no zero, differentiating 6001 from 61 or from 6100 was very confusing to read, and often a blank space was left. Around 4 B.C., a symbol came into use to show a void that looked like a triangle with a long tail. This symbol acted as a placeholder, like the modern zero, but it was not considered a number.

In Greek mathematics, as in Roman, there were words to show the absence of all numbers (nothingness). The Greeks and Romans used a decimal counting system too, and used the 24 letters with special notation to show numbers. The first ten letters were the first ten numbers, the eleventh letter was the number 10, the twelfth letter was 20, and so on. With one myriad totaling 10,000, larger numbers were sometimes shown as myriads of myriads.

[SaZ]

kazka supainiojau
nepykit nemoku matematikos

[Trolis gumis]

kad 0+0+0+0 = 0
taip
bet 0+0+0+0+... (iki begalybes) != 0
kam tada lygi begaline 0 suma?

siaip pirmiau reik zinot savoka "begalybe"
kas apibres ta savoka, pastatysiu alaus, bet kadangi iki siol nei vienas is didziu matematiku to nepadare, kaip ir nei vienas fizikas neparase apibrezimo elektrai, tai as ramus.
siaip pats uzdavinys is dalies kiauras, nes nuliu suma visad yra 0, nesvarbu, kiek tu nuliu esa, o kad iki begalybes, tai jau cia kitas bajeris.


geriau aptart toki vartyma, kai is teisingu prielaidu padaromos neteisingos isvados, arba absurdas.
cia viduramziu stilium:

Kodas: Pasirinkti visus

Dievas yra visagalis? - Taip.
Jei jis yra visagalis, tai gali sukurti tokio dydzio akmeni, kurio pats negaletu pakelt, ane? - Taip.
BET. Jei jis negaletu pakelti akmens, tai jis jau nebutu visagalis.

va taip ivaldyt vartyma tai yra menas.

[Trolis gumis]

http://www.gamezone.lt/diskusijos/viewt ... 5899#75899
klausimas.

[+Ameno+]

Uzdavinys:
0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + ...... (iki begalybes) = ?

siaip cia yra suktas klausimas ar tas iki begalybes eina tik nuliai ar po to atsiranda kokie nors skaiciai

[GODhack]

Ne cia nesuktas klausimas. Daugtaskis reiskia kad reik pratest esama seka tokia kokia ji yra iki begalybes arba iki tokio skaitmens koks nurodomas po daugtaskio. Tai labai dasnas matematinis simbolis. Net gabus septintokas ka reiskia supranta:
0.333...
trejetai resiasi iki begalybes.

Beje kad kiek nuliu pepridetum suma liks nulis tai beveik akivaizdu.

BETO:
Cia prastai atrodo kai pradedat is tokio pirmoku uzdavinio isvest filosofijas.

Begaline 0 suma lygi 0.
Sprendima pateikiau jau. Jei kas turit kitoki atsakyma prasom rasykit sprendima istaisysim klaidas.

[GODhack]

Na ziuriu matke cia patinka tai dar uzdavinys toks nesunkus, bet gan idomus:

Mociute turi tiek metu kiek anukas menesiu. Abu kartu jie turi 65 metus. Kiek menesiu yra anukui?

[GODhack]

Arba dar vienas gan (tiksliau sprest galima net mintinai per kelias sekundes)paprastas:
Skaiciu esanti pries naturini n padaugine is skaiciaus esancio po naturinio n gausime 1224. Kam lygus n?